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	<title>Comments on: Wordpress 2.5 Review</title>
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		<title>By: XIII</title>
		<link>http://www.librarywebchic.net/wordpress/2008/04/17/wordpress-25-review/#comment-62395</link>
		<dc:creator>XIII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 13:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm strongly disliking the new upload feature. Uploading pictures one by one pre 2.5 went quicker than using the multi-upload in 2.5 and then having to click a dozen times per picture to set all the fields correctly.
I wouldn't call this release more developer centric as K.G mentions, to me it feels more like Windows Vista, focusing on eye candy instead of improving key features and stability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m strongly disliking the new upload feature. Uploading pictures one by one pre 2.5 went quicker than using the multi-upload in 2.5 and then having to click a dozen times per picture to set all the fields correctly.<br />
I wouldn&#8217;t call this release more developer centric as K.G mentions, to me it feels more like Windows Vista, focusing on eye candy instead of improving key features and stability.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.librarywebchic.net/wordpress/2008/04/17/wordpress-25-review/#comment-62182</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you looked at &lt;a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/ozh-absolute-comments/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Absolute Comments&lt;/a&gt;? It appears to be &lt;a href="http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2008/04/14/absolute-comments-plugin-video-review/" rel="nofollow"&gt;well regarded&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you looked at <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/ozh-absolute-comments/" rel="nofollow">Absolute Comments</a>? It appears to be <a href="http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2008/04/14/absolute-comments-plugin-video-review/" rel="nofollow">well regarded</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.librarywebchic.net/wordpress/2008/04/17/wordpress-25-review/#comment-62176</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen,
What useful purpose do you see the Dashboard serving? I've always thought of it as "for developers" because significant portions of its screen real estate highlight Wordpress news and developments. The only thing useful to me on the Dashboard is the incoming links and now that there is an RSS feed of these that I can subscribe to I don't pay much attention to it in my Dashboard.

I agree the movement of categories to below the fold stinks. I find it more annoying every minute I use it. But the labels for things have changed in a non-developer direction. If I were learning the Wordpress database structure now I'd be confused by the disjoint between the labeling of tables/fields in the database and the user interface. 

In terms of your question about the usability/understandability the term "media", I have a couple of comments.

First, Wordpress hasn't had a concerted photo, video, sound management and upload tool before. To do these kinds of things in Wordpress, you had to be relatively savvy and often install plugins. The addition of this functionality is a really good thing. 

Second, I think this is one of those concepts which is hard to term. We are talking about a term which represents a group of things (photos, videos, audio) which are similar but very distinct. I've always found developing good labels for this type of thing hard. People are happy to group the items together but have a difficult time coming up with a label that "makes sense". (I wouldn't be surprised if you focus grouped people and they called this grouping - Stuff I Uploaded or something else action oriented) I think the different icons representing the different kinds of media are a good way to indicate to people what the label is referring to. In an ideal world this wouldn't be necessary but sometimes it is because words don't do a good job or representing or describing things.

BTW - I checked out two other blogging softwares to see what terms they use for "media". Blogger separates  out photos and videos. While it provides a tool for uploading it doesn't seem to have a management console for the items once they are uploaded. Movable Type uses the term "asset" for photos, video, audio. Like Wordpress, it provides a way to manage these objects once they have been uploaded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen,<br />
What useful purpose do you see the Dashboard serving? I&#8217;ve always thought of it as &#8220;for developers&#8221; because significant portions of its screen real estate highlight Wordpress news and developments. The only thing useful to me on the Dashboard is the incoming links and now that there is an RSS feed of these that I can subscribe to I don&#8217;t pay much attention to it in my Dashboard.</p>
<p>I agree the movement of categories to below the fold stinks. I find it more annoying every minute I use it. But the labels for things have changed in a non-developer direction. If I were learning the Wordpress database structure now I&#8217;d be confused by the disjoint between the labeling of tables/fields in the database and the user interface. </p>
<p>In terms of your question about the usability/understandability the term &#8220;media&#8221;, I have a couple of comments.</p>
<p>First, Wordpress hasn&#8217;t had a concerted photo, video, sound management and upload tool before. To do these kinds of things in Wordpress, you had to be relatively savvy and often install plugins. The addition of this functionality is a really good thing. </p>
<p>Second, I think this is one of those concepts which is hard to term. We are talking about a term which represents a group of things (photos, videos, audio) which are similar but very distinct. I&#8217;ve always found developing good labels for this type of thing hard. People are happy to group the items together but have a difficult time coming up with a label that &#8220;makes sense&#8221;. (I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if you focus grouped people and they called this grouping - Stuff I Uploaded or something else action oriented) I think the different icons representing the different kinds of media are a good way to indicate to people what the label is referring to. In an ideal world this wouldn&#8217;t be necessary but sometimes it is because words don&#8217;t do a good job or representing or describing things.</p>
<p>BTW - I checked out two other blogging softwares to see what terms they use for &#8220;media&#8221;. Blogger separates  out photos and videos. While it provides a tool for uploading it doesn&#8217;t seem to have a management console for the items once they are uploaded. Movable Type uses the term &#8220;asset&#8221; for photos, video, audio. Like Wordpress, it provides a way to manage these objects once they have been uploaded.</p>
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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
		<link>http://www.librarywebchic.net/wordpress/2008/04/17/wordpress-25-review/#comment-62160</link>
		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does playing "hide the dashboard" or putting the categories down the page help new/inexperienced users? I could do a heuristic about how this fails for new users in quite few ways. (Does a new user understand the term "media"?)

I think the opposite is true: WP is becoming more developer-centric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does playing &#8220;hide the dashboard&#8221; or putting the categories down the page help new/inexperienced users? I could do a heuristic about how this fails for new users in quite few ways. (Does a new user understand the term &#8220;media&#8221;?)</p>
<p>I think the opposite is true: WP is becoming more developer-centric.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.librarywebchic.net/wordpress/2008/04/17/wordpress-25-review/#comment-62134</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen S,
I think they are trying to highlight the things people use the most often. But it seems like this is a reworking for inexperienced/non-users that potentially annoys more experienced users. &lt;a href="http://kevinclarke.info/weblog/2008/04/12/wordpress-25/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Kevin Clarke commented on his blog&lt;/a&gt; that he didn't like the fact that categories are so far down on the page and you have to scroll to add them. I'm not a fan of this either, but I guess it really all depends on how much you use categories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen S,<br />
I think they are trying to highlight the things people use the most often. But it seems like this is a reworking for inexperienced/non-users that potentially annoys more experienced users. <a href="http://kevinclarke.info/weblog/2008/04/12/wordpress-25/" rel="nofollow">Kevin Clarke commented on his blog</a> that he didn&#8217;t like the fact that categories are so far down on the page and you have to scroll to add them. I&#8217;m not a fan of this either, but I guess it really all depends on how much you use categories.</p>
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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
		<link>http://www.librarywebchic.net/wordpress/2008/04/17/wordpress-25-review/#comment-62132</link>
		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some things are better, but the eensy-weensy fonts and the way Dashboard is tucked off in the corner are just bizarre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some things are better, but the eensy-weensy fonts and the way Dashboard is tucked off in the corner are just bizarre.</p>
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